On Nelson Mandela

From  "Divine-right monarchy for the modern secular intellectual", Thursday, March 18, 2010

On the end of apartheid:

"Which individuals have gained which life options from the transition from Nationalist to ANC rule? What were the oppressed peoples of South Africa allowed to do in 1995, which they weren't allowed to do in 1993? Please be specific."

 On the end of apartheid being "objectively anti-black":

"Last time we asked: are you pro-black, or anti-black? Your support for the incredible PR deluge under which the old South Africa knuckled, though you thought it was pro-black, and you remember it as pro-black, actually turned out to be objectively anti-black. As in: you thought your kneejerk PR response, which various good hearts were playing like a violin, would have a positive material impact on the existence on South African blacks. But it actually had a negative material impact.

"Which is not to say, of course, that the end of apartheid had no positive impact on South African blacks. It had a significant positive impact on South African blacks: an emotional impact.

"Of course, this is not exactly a defense! ... Since, on average, their lives did not improve and in fact got worse, you have compounded your mistake with the even more sinister act of deception.

After this discussion of South Africa, a difficult-to-follow discussion of Israel. 

On the "magical narratives" he's identified about Israel and Mandela:

"Now, frankly, where you find one cockroach, you typically don't find just one. We've found two."

On Mass Killer Anders Behring Breivik

From "Right-wing terrorism as folk activism, Saturday, July 23, 2011" published one day after the massacre.

Comparison of Breivik to Nelson Mandela: 

" If you ask me to condemn Anders Breivik, but adore Nelson Mandela, perhaps you have a mother you'd like to fuck. "

"ABB is a terrorist. Nelson Mandela is a terrorist. Nelson Mandela is the most revered living political figure on our beautiful blue planet. Besides just killing people with bombs, here's the sort of thing "armed struggle" meant to St. Mandela... [photo of a person being set on fire with no caption]

 On his choice of the political party youth camp:

"We can note the only thing he didn't screw up. At least he shot communists, not Muslims. He gored the matador and not the cape."

"While still basically animal behavior (especially when it comes to the 15-year-olds - is there a 15-year-old in the world who isn't a communist?), it's more than I'd expect from a rogue Gates of Vienna commenter."

Starting here Yarvin makes his point that while he agrees with Breivik, he objects to violent terrorism because it won't be effective:

"If it was militarily possible to free Norway from Eurocommunism by killing a hundred communists, or a thousand communists, or ten thousand communists, we might have an interesting moral debate over whether this butcher's bill was worth paying. Since it is not possible to free Norway from communism by killing a hundred communists.... The verdict is clear: illegitimate, ineffective and wrong. I condemn Anders Behring Breivik! So there."

See Also: "The indisputable humanity of Anders Behring Breivik"

On White Nationalism

Background: "White Nationalism" (Southern Poverty Law Center)
 
From "Why I am not a white nationalist," November 22, 2007

White Nationalism defined in his own words:

"What is white nationalism, anyway? I'd say a white nationalist is someone who believes that whites should act collectively to further their collective interests."

On reading: 

"I am not a white nationalist, but I do read white-nationalist blogs, and I'm not afraid to link to them. "

Blogs listed including American Renaissance and VDare.

"Perhaps the best summary of the white nationalist case I've seen, however, is this essay by the Norwegian blogger known only as Fjordman."

Fjordman was the inspiration for Andres Breivik, the Norwegian who killed 77 people as young as 14.

On association with white nationalism: 

 "It should be obvious that, although I am not a white nationalist, I am not exactly allergic to the stuff."

On agreement with:

"At its best, white nationalism offers a sensible description of a general problem."

On a lack of moral objection:

"So we see that, at present, in the real world of 2007, there is no coherent moral or practical reason to shun white nationalism. ...

On white nationalists problems being "serious or important": 

"You could not be a white nationalist because you believed that the problems white nationalists worry about are not serious or important."

This is just a hoot.

 A passage describing "Class A" "Class B" and Country X":

"Suppose you are an alien and you are observing a country X which contains two classes of people, which we'll call A and B. You observe the following:

Every year, thousands of people of class B are attacked, raped and killed by people of class A. The converse is extremely rare - at least, rare enough to be a cause celebre. (BTW, I love the argument that class-A people attack, rape and kill other class-A people as well. As though this were some great saving grace.)

Large areas of X, including entire major cities, have been ethnically cleansed by the departure of class-B people fleeing class-A violence.

Versus class-As, class-Bs are systematically disfavored in competition for educational and professional positions.

Many, even most, people of class A accept a canonical ideology which justifies this situation as a moral response to unidentifiable, irreparable, and ancient wrongs, and appears to motivate ongoing attacks, which are often defended by responsible authorities. In fact, the belief that it is actually the class-Bs who are oppressing the class-As is widespread.

While class-Bs are a numerical majority in some regions, they are a substantial minority on the entire planet. Many respectable and influential people advocate the abolition of all migration controls worldwide, leaving the class-As in a perfect position to extend their theory of violence to a policy of global conquest and destruction. While this is not about to happen tomorrow, over the next century it is quite plausible.

Now. Would you, as a responsible alien obeying all directives for diplomatic communication with primitive planets, suggest to the class-Bs that there was some other problem that they should be worrying about instead? Something more important? Something even scarier? Such as, oh, I don't know, unusually warm weather?

Behold the massive crack infusion flowing into your arm. (Or at least trying to. Remember, kids, you can always just pull the needle out.)

So why am I not a white nationalist?

I am not a white nationalist because I don't find white nationalism useful or effective. I don't feel it helps me accurately perceive reality. In fact, I think it distorts reality. And I believe white nationalism is a very ineffective political device for solving the very real problems about which it complains. (emphasis added)

If you haven't read the Fjordman piece I linked above, now would be an excellent time to do so.

On CurtisYarvinQuotes.blogspot.com

A Functional Programming conference, LambdaConf, has invited an individual named "Curtis Yarvin." For almost a decade Yarvin blogged under the pseudonym Mencius Moldbug, and is is this writing that has led to controversy and a push to disinvite him.

In this controversy and push to disinvite him, what Yarvin/Moldbug espoused has often been summarized or paraphrased. I took it upon myself to read his archives and was horrified.

The bar of when to disinvite someone for their unrelated views is extremely high. Curtis Yarvin clears this bar. It's often a sticky ethical and moral dilemma, in the case of a conference, for speakers, anteeedees, and sponsors. To completely dissociate one's self with Curtis Yarvin is not.

Hopefully mere quotes can make this clear.

And the context is worse.